RE: Adam from Dust

From: Dick Fischer (
Date: Mon Jul 15 2002 - 21:01:31 EDT

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    Hi Glenn, you wrote:

    >So I read you right that God didn't even try with people prior to Adam.

    Nothing in the Bible about it.

    >What a fascinating theological view. God created a bunch of hell-bound,
    >hopeless humans prior to 4004 BC.

    Dogs and cats don't go to hell, why should early hominids?

    >Wow. Did Jesus pay for their sins, or would that have been a waste?

    Jesus paid the sins for those who accept Him as savior. Those who do
    not accept Him are entirely accountable and without salvation. I
    don't know anything about retroactive salvation for those who would
    have accepted Him had they known about Him when they lived.

    >And given that Adam seems to be the first person capable of being saved, I
    >presume this means that those in Europe of that day --contemporaries of
    >Adam, weren't capable of being saved either. Is that correct?

    Even those living in Egypt, who were contemporary with Adam at the
    time Adam lived, were unaccountable and without salvation or
    condemnation in my opinion. Salvation rested with the children of
    Israel, God's chosen people, until the time of Christ. What about
    those living in the Americas during those four thousand years from
    Adam to Christ? Same deal.

    Apparently, those outside the nation of Israel wherein salvation was
    obtainable with their status as God's chosen people, were outside the
    realm of accountability. This can be inferred from Matthew 23:15,
    "Woe unto you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea
    and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him
    twofold more the child of hell than yourselves."

    When one outside the Jewish faith was brought to the knowledge of
    God, he became accountable. Because of false teaching, he was
    condemned. This unique status for Israel as God's chosen people was
    rescinded, or at least modified, at the cross. Christ was appointed
    by God as His representative.

    The second Adam, Christ, was in the "image of God" (II Cor. 4:4) just
    as the first Adam, and the mantle was passed to the followers of
    Christ. Today, salvation is available to all, sadly condemnation
    awaits those who reject the good news, or even don't hear it. Bummer.

    >Your view seems so strange.

    Who said, "truth is stranger than fiction"?

    Dick Fischer - The Origins Solution -
    "The answer we should have known about 150 years ago"

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