Re: [asa] A case of non-biological ID

From: Michael Roberts <>
Date: Tue Jan 22 2008 - 11:26:03 EST

There is a difference from "learning" from others and being their followers.

I have read Bultmann Tillich etc at length when doing theology. I had lots of Tillich as one of my teachers Burgy mentioned - John Heywood Thomas. I cant object to those three points.

There is a problem of going to one extreme or another. Spong is very attractive when we are reacting against an extreme fundamentalism and vice versa. I am marking an essay at present where the student pits inerrancy against a very liberal approach which denies all historicity in the bible. If you think there are two options either no historicity or Henry Morris type inerrancy which will most Christians choose? Thank goodness for Peter Enns and lots like him!!

Note that Lewis was not an evangelical but an orthodox mid-century Anglican. Too many today try to make him an evangelical who really espouses inerrancy. From his comments on the Psalms he clearly did not. He is far more liberal than Peter Enns or even G Murphy or me

His stuff converted me


----- Original Message -----
  From: j burg
  To: Vernon Jenkins
  Cc: Michael Roberts ;
  Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 3:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [asa] A case of non-biological ID

  On 1/21/08, Vernon Jenkins <> wrote: "foremost among whom are your preferred authorities Bultmann and Tillich."

  Careful what you write, vernon. I don't recall ever saying either of these two gentlemen were my "preferred authorities." As a matter of fact, I don't think I mentioned Bultmann at all.

  As for CSL, I admire his writings immensely and have a number of them in my personal library.

  I did mention Tillich, of course -- just in passing. I have read some of his stuff -- he is most difficult to understand. One thing I did understand is his "three ideas," as expressed in the book PAUL TILLICH (1968) by J. Thomas:

  1. There is an infinite difference between the temporal and the eternal.
  2. Revelation is necessary for one to know God.
  3. There is an inevitable paradox when human language tries to express the divine.

  Wich makes sense to me. God searched ME out -- I did not "find him."

  John Spong also wrote: "Definitions of God do not exhaust his reality. All concepts of God are necessarily limited human ideas. Do not identify your own concept of God with God."

  The book YOUR GOD IS TOO SMALL expresses these ideas from one in a more conservative camp.

  I suspect (w/o looking) that CSL also expressed the idea.



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